VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen)

Charley Yalin · 2nd April 2008, 12:53 PM

Hi all,
I installed AC3D but I can't keep it runing.
There'll be a black cmd window and that's it.
After that I'll get the message .. Problem .. and searching

sry 4 my english

this is my system:

NVIDIA Systeminformationen-Bericht erstellt am: 04/02/2008 18:51:56
Name des Systems: FRITZSCHULTZ-PC

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Prozessor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2800 MHz)
Betriebssystem: Microsoft Windows Vista (Service Pack 1)
DirectX-Version: 10.0
&GPU-Prozessor: GeForce 8600 GTS
ForceWare-Version: 163.69
Gesamter verfügbarer Grafikspeicher: 1278 MB
Dedizierter Videospeicher: 512 MB
System-Videospeicher: 0 MB
Freigegebener Systemspeicher: 766 MB
Video-BIOS-Version: 60.84.32.00.00
IRQ: 24
Bus: PCI Express x16

hope anybody can help me
regards

charley

ahuimanu · 18th June 2008, 03:13 PM

I have the same problem...

When I click the shortcut (doig so with "run as administrator") I get a blank DOS cmd window and then a crash. Since I have Visual Studio installed, I am offered to debug the problem.

I can't begin to demo the software if it won't run.

Please help,

Jeff

ahuimanu · 20th June 2008, 04:07 PM

I must first thank Andy in his attempts to help me via email on this problem.

I will report here on what works should any other Vista 32-bit customer have problems with the program not starting:

I was able to get AC3D to work by disabling DEP - (Data Execution Prevention - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa468629.aspx or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention) - for the AC3D.exe .

The instructions I followed for disabling DEP for a specific program are discussed here:

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/65...-programs.html

I will not claim to know what wider implications this has for either DEP or AC3D and AC3D is certainly not the only program to run afoul of Vista's DEP implementation.

In any case, if you are on Vista 32-bit (althogh I suspect 64-bit might raise the same issue) and find that AC3D won't launch, try my work-around if other more common work-arounds don't pan out.

Those common-work-arounds are:

1) run as administrator
2) turn off anti-virus

Jeff

tyjbr · 7th July 2008, 08:19 AM

AC3D runs fine on both 64 and 32 bit Vista premiums for me after selecting the run as admin in shortcut properties.
It even ran fine as non admin but I could not save anything.

Vista 32 Premium:sp1/Ubuntu 8.04 hardy
Acer 5610 laptop
2.5 GB ram
950 intel graphics video ram shared 224MB onboard.
duo core 32bit 1.73

Vista 64 Premium:sp1
BareBones kit.
amd 64bit phenom x4 9500
asus nforce 560 m2n-sli motherboard
4 GB ram
nvidia 8500GT 1GB pci-ex

2 more Windows XP:sp3 pc's flawlessly.
Compaq s4000nx
2.4 celeron 32bit
1GB ram
nvidia 6200 GT 256MB pci

emachines T6212
amd 64bit 3200+
1GB ram
ati hd2600 pro viper 512MB pci-ex

So its working here good all round even on Ubuntu 8.04 hardy .

(6.2 was, not 6.4)

ahuimanu · 7th July 2008, 10:21 AM

So long as I disable DEP, AC3D works just fine.

Otherwise, enjoying the software so far.

tyjbr · 9th July 2008, 01:57 AM

you really should not have to disable it and if you do some other programs wont seem to run right sometimes.atleast thats what happened to me after disabling dep awhile back.it wasnt for ac3d though ,i just got tired of all the dam popups lol.

tyjbr · 16th July 2008, 07:31 AM

Sorry I disabled UAC and programs wouldnt run right.
Not sure if thats the same.

ahuimanu · 16th July 2008, 10:45 AM

It is not the same: UAC vs. DEP. I don't know why, but in trouble-shooting, it is something that I tried (on a hunch and based on similar problems with other "older" programs) and it worked.

By the way, I don't disable DEP entirely, I exempt AC3D from DEP.

Hertston · 3rd October 2009, 07:14 AM

Hi all,

Just wondering if any information or solutions have come up regarding this? I'm having the exact same trouble as the OP with the demo (6.528) and have tried the following;

The default DEP "for essential Windows programs and services only"

DEP for all programs except those selected, selecting AC3D

Disabling DEP altogether (using "bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff")

Reinstalling the Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable

Running as an administrator

Turning off AV (AVG) and firewall (Comodo)

with no result, or changes in 'symptoms'.

Are the problems solved with Windows 7, with release being only a few weeks away now?

Thanks.

Intel Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
GeForce 9800 GT
Vista Home Premium (SP2)

Hertston · 6th October 2009, 11:43 PM

So nobody else at all had this problem in the last 14 months?!

18th June 2008, 03:13 PM	#2
ahuimanu Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) I have the same problem... When I click the shortcut (doig so with "run as administrator") I get a blank DOS cmd window and then a crash. Since I have Visual Studio installed, I am offered to debug the problem. I can't begin to demo the software if it won't run. Please help, Jeff

20th June 2008, 04:07 PM	#3
ahuimanu Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) I must first thank Andy in his attempts to help me via email on this problem. I will report here on what works should any other Vista 32-bit customer have problems with the program not starting: I was able to get AC3D to work by disabling DEP - (Data Execution Prevention - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa468629.aspx or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention) - for the AC3D.exe . The instructions I followed for disabling DEP for a specific program are discussed here: http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/65...-programs.html I will not claim to know what wider implications this has for either DEP or AC3D and AC3D is certainly not the only program to run afoul of Vista's DEP implementation. In any case, if you are on Vista 32-bit (althogh I suspect 64-bit might raise the same issue) and find that AC3D won't launch, try my work-around if other more common work-arounds don't pan out. Those common-work-arounds are: 1) run as administrator 2) turn off anti-virus Jeff

7th July 2008, 08:19 AM	#4
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) AC3D runs fine on both 64 and 32 bit Vista premiums for me after selecting the run as admin in shortcut properties. It even ran fine as non admin but I could not save anything. Vista 32 Premium:sp1/Ubuntu 8.04 hardy Acer 5610 laptop 2.5 GB ram 950 intel graphics video ram shared 224MB onboard. duo core 32bit 1.73 Vista 64 Premium:sp1 BareBones kit. amd 64bit phenom x4 9500 asus nforce 560 m2n-sli motherboard 4 GB ram nvidia 8500GT 1GB pci-ex 2 more Windows XP:sp3 pc's flawlessly. Compaq s4000nx 2.4 celeron 32bit 1GB ram nvidia 6200 GT 256MB pci emachines T6212 amd 64bit 3200+ 1GB ram ati hd2600 pro viper 512MB pci-ex So its working here good all round even on Ubuntu 8.04 hardy . (6.2 was, not 6.4) Last edited by tyjbr; 16th July 2008 at 07:33 AM.

7th July 2008, 10:21 AM	#5
ahuimanu Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) So long as I disable DEP, AC3D works just fine. Otherwise, enjoying the software so far.

9th July 2008, 01:57 AM	#6
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) you really should not have to disable it and if you do some other programs wont seem to run right sometimes.atleast thats what happened to me after disabling dep awhile back.it wasnt for ac3d though ,i just got tired of all the dam popups lol.

16th July 2008, 07:31 AM	#7
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) Sorry I disabled UAC and programs wouldnt run right. Not sure if thats the same.

16th July 2008, 10:45 AM	#8
ahuimanu Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) It is not the same: UAC vs. DEP. I don't know why, but in trouble-shooting, it is something that I tried (on a hunch and based on similar problems with other "older" programs) and it worked. By the way, I don't disable DEP entirely, I exempt AC3D from DEP.

3rd October 2009, 07:14 AM	#9
Hertston Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) Hi all, Just wondering if any information or solutions have come up regarding this? I'm having the exact same trouble as the OP with the demo (6.528) and have tried the following; The default DEP "for essential Windows programs and services only" DEP for all programs except those selected, selecting AC3D Disabling DEP altogether (using "bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff") Reinstalling the Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Running as an administrator Turning off AV (AVG) and firewall (Comodo) with no result, or changes in 'symptoms'. Are the problems solved with Windows 7, with release being only a few weeks away now? Thanks. Intel Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz GeForce 9800 GT Vista Home Premium (SP2)

6th October 2009, 11:43 PM	#10
Hertston Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Re: VISTA 32 AC3D won't start (black cmd screen) So nobody else at all had this problem in the last 14 months?!