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Old 21st July 2006, 08:24 PM   #11
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yes but how do I get rid of the unwanted surfaces. I want to combin that whole area so that it looks normal.
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Old 21st July 2006, 09:35 PM   #12
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yes but how do I get rid of the unwanted surfaces. I want to combin that whole area so that it looks normal.
Select 2 adjacent surfaces and press "C" to combine them.
Then delete useless vertices if any.
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Old 21st July 2006, 09:37 PM   #13
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but I can't combin them. thats the problem they are not adjacent. yet they are on the same object.
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Old 21st July 2006, 10:01 PM   #14
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but I can't combin them. thats the problem they are not adjacent. yet they are on the same object.
Oh ... I see ... sorry.
Well if they are not adjacent it's up to you to make them adjacent then ...
By welding some vertices, and optimizing surfaces if needed.
It's maybe going to be a hard task.
Why not removing that part of your model and re-building it safier ?
I think this is what I would do myself.
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ooh alright. thanks luuckyy I will do that.
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Old 21st July 2006, 10:41 PM   #16
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I have decided on given up on the project that darn deflector array is going to be complexed. I will work on the ship later on.
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Old 22nd July 2006, 06:19 PM   #17
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Hi night --- sorry to see you abandon this one, even if temporarily --- this was really looking good.

Here's a suggestion on remaking that boolean'ed piece, though, if you decide to revisit it. It requires the Ortho Knife plugin ( http://supercoldmilk.com/ac3dplug/orthknife.html ).

1. Create a cylinder with capped ends. Delete the surfaces on the end that will stay "open". Perform a Surface -> Combine on the other end. The 3D screenshot is shown as 2-sided for clarity.

2. Push the verts on the top half up using the size handle. (front view shown)

3. Resize the length a little and draw a line that we'll use to cut through the geometry. (left view shown)

4. Perform an Orth Knife, setting the Line as the knife, and checking both "Select new vertices" and "Delete entire knife object". Select the cylinder and perform a "Slice Side (YZ)".

5. Perform a Vertex -> Slice Surface, and select + delete the unwanted half of the cylinder.

6. Select the vertices on the opened end and perform a Vertex -> Extrude edges. Resize the selection by holding down Ctrl while resizing to get a proportional sizing.

7. Select the vertices around the bottom edge and resize them downward.

8. Then resize them to the right. You now have a more subdivision-friendly piece of geometry.

You can see in the subdivision example in the last 3D screenshot where I left the cylindar cap as a big surface, you get some "striping" that moves in toward the center --- this is lessened by slicing the surfaces up into vertical quads, as shown in the next-to-last image. If I hadn't combined the original surfaces, we would have seen a star-shaped pattern at the center of the surface.

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Old 22nd July 2006, 06:22 PM   #18
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that will probably work. I have not stopped working on it. though I have been trying to figure out a correct solution to the problem.
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Old 22nd July 2006, 07:19 PM   #19
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I have a problem when I delete the surface on one of the capped ends everything else goes transparent. whats the problem.
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Old 22nd July 2006, 07:44 PM   #20
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I have a problem when I delete the surface on one of the capped ends everything else goes transparent. whats the problem.
Cylinders are only 1-sided by default, so select the cylinder and set it to 2-sided using the 2S button at the bottom left (I'm assuming this is what's happening?).
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