Hurrah!

coldby · 8th November 2006, 08:58 AM

I got the (official) rumor that AC3D 6.1 is on its way and that it will have some brand-new booleans. Does that really mean that it will allow us to drill a hole in an object rather than building the object around the hole?
If it's true I cannot think of anything better under my Christmas tree!!!

Stiglr · 10th November 2006, 02:12 PM

Well, the current Boolean features allow you to drill holes already... it's usually the confusion with keeping a copy of the original (or not) that confuses the issue for users. The original, if not set to be deleted, overlaps with the new, cut version, and it looks as if nothing's happened.

The real problem with the existing Boolean is that it's messy as all hell. You usually have to do massive amounts of "cleanup" work, merging and welding superfluous vertices before you can move on after doing a Boolean cut, and that often takes so long that it's more time-effective to do the work yourself with Knife and creating vertices.

So, I'm hoping the new, improved Boolean will be better in this regard. Fixing the problems of confusion with copies, originals, etc., are just nomenclature issues and should be much easier fixes to make.

SAT · 10th November 2006, 11:20 PM

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The real problem with the existing Boolean is that it's messy as all hell. etc.etc...

Got that right. I hate that Boolean thing. Heck I can't get the knife to work either, but I guess that's just me.

Stiglr · 11th November 2006, 02:10 PM

Knife works GREAT. You just have to use it properly.

1) Only works with 2D geometrics as the Knife Object (I tend to use rectangles or shapes that are combined into one surface)

2) The Knife Object must overlap the surface area it's going to cut fully. Usually when a cut doesn't work, it's because you didn't overlap one of the edges of the object you're trying to cut.

3) Only works in OBJECT mode. You get a couple of annoying dialog boxes if you try to assign the knife object while in surface mode.

Booleans...we'll see. I have to try the new version and see what improvements have been made. Based on the track record of this AC3D team, I predict success!

OPPIZ NAM · 12th November 2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SAT

Got that right. I hate that Boolean thing. Heck I can't get the knife to work either, but I guess that's just me.

i can not get mine to work either
and i was wondering wat is a boolean

SAT · 12th November 2006, 05:55 PM

A boolean operation is when you have two objects, and you use one to cut out a section from the other.

For example: You have a Box and you need a round hole through the center.

You take a Cylinder and place it through the center of the Box. Then you use a boolean operation. The boolean operation will make a Box with a round hole through it, where the Cylinder was.

Stiglr · 12th November 2006, 08:56 PM

Just a FYI...

I've previewed the new Boolean and it's GREAT, so far. All the previous issues seem to be solved, and it should be a VERY useful tool.

8th November 2006, 08:58 AM	#1
coldby Senior Member Professional user Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 102	Hurrah! I got the (official) rumor that AC3D 6.1 is on its way and that it will have some brand-new booleans. Does that really mean that it will allow us to drill a hole in an object rather than building the object around the hole? If it's true I cannot think of anything better under my Christmas tree!!!

10th November 2006, 02:12 PM	#2
Stiglr Senior Member Professional user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 604	Re: Hurrah! Well, the current Boolean features allow you to drill holes already... it's usually the confusion with keeping a copy of the original (or not) that confuses the issue for users. The original, if not set to be deleted, overlaps with the new, cut version, and it looks as if nothing's happened. The real problem with the existing Boolean is that it's messy as all hell. You usually have to do massive amounts of "cleanup" work, merging and welding superfluous vertices before you can move on after doing a Boolean cut, and that often takes so long that it's more time-effective to do the work yourself with Knife and creating vertices. So, I'm hoping the new, improved Boolean will be better in this regard. Fixing the problems of confusion with copies, originals, etc., are just nomenclature issues and should be much easier fixes to make. __________________ Flight Sim Project Contributor My Gaming Rig: i5 2500K Quad-Core CPU at 3.3GHz MSI P67A-C43 mobo 4GB of PC12800 DDR3 memory Windows 7 1GB Galaxy GeForce GTX550 Ti video card GeForce 270.61 drivers (4/2011) Cougar joystick/throttle combo CH Pedals

11th November 2006, 02:10 PM	#4
Stiglr Senior Member Professional user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 604	Re: Hurrah! Knife works GREAT. You just have to use it properly. 1) Only works with 2D geometrics as the Knife Object (I tend to use rectangles or shapes that are combined into one surface) 2) The Knife Object must overlap the surface area it's going to cut fully. Usually when a cut doesn't work, it's because you didn't overlap one of the edges of the object you're trying to cut. 3) Only works in OBJECT mode. You get a couple of annoying dialog boxes if you try to assign the knife object while in surface mode. Booleans...we'll see. I have to try the new version and see what improvements have been made. Based on the track record of this AC3D team, I predict success! __________________ Flight Sim Project Contributor My Gaming Rig: i5 2500K Quad-Core CPU at 3.3GHz MSI P67A-C43 mobo 4GB of PC12800 DDR3 memory Windows 7 1GB Galaxy GeForce GTX550 Ti video card GeForce 270.61 drivers (4/2011) Cougar joystick/throttle combo CH Pedals Last edited by Stiglr; 13th November 2006 at 12:47 PM.

12th November 2006, 05:55 PM	#6
SAT Member Expert member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 56	Re: Hurrah! A boolean operation is when you have two objects, and you use one to cut out a section from the other. For example: You have a Box and you need a round hole through the center. You take a Cylinder and place it through the center of the Box. Then you use a boolean operation. The boolean operation will make a Box with a round hole through it, where the Cylinder was.

12th November 2006, 08:56 PM	#7
Stiglr Senior Member Professional user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 604	Re: Hurrah! Just a FYI... I've previewed the new Boolean and it's GREAT, so far. All the previous issues seem to be solved, and it should be a VERY useful tool. __________________ Flight Sim Project Contributor My Gaming Rig: i5 2500K Quad-Core CPU at 3.3GHz MSI P67A-C43 mobo 4GB of PC12800 DDR3 memory Windows 7 1GB Galaxy GeForce GTX550 Ti video card GeForce 270.61 drivers (4/2011) Cougar joystick/throttle combo CH Pedals