Linux AC3D on Acer laptop

tyjbr · 8th July 2008, 05:33 AM

fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 32bit and all updates.
didnt do anything funny this time.
ac3d 6.4 unzip ran it.
all plugins loaded.
problems :
default models lost colors.
and colors do not stick to all objects.
probly others.
6.2 with the way i installed it above worked better,i didnt have this problem and the only problem i seemed to have was "save 3D as png would crash ac3d.

Andy · 8th July 2008, 06:27 AM

have you tried running 'ac3ds' - this is the static library version. If 'ac3ds' works then the problems are in you graphics drivers.

tyjbr · 8th July 2008, 01:07 PM

ita an acer laptop with all intel stuff works right out of the box i dont need any drivers.
ac3ds is the only 1 i use.
it was working fine until 6.4
its also a fresh install .
its ac3d not my laptop.
acer 5610-4537, 2.5GB ram, intel gma 950 graphics. 256 shared video memory.
works fine on vista ,was working fine on ubuntu with the funny install 6.2.
all except the crash on save 3d win as png.
heres the command i run from terminal ./ac3ds
and i use this in a shell script, export AC3D_HOME=/home/tyjbr/ac3dlx && /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx/ac3ds
there are no restricted drivers for this laptop. compiz works right after install.
this is what i did, i reinstalled ubuntu 8.04 hardy basically just for ac3d to make sure it wasnt something with ubuntu.
installed all 200 some updates ,restarted, unziped ac3dlx ran the above commands.
theres really nothing more i can do. unless you know something i dont.
all the plugins load so its not that.
stumped.
ill post a video somewhere of what 6.4 is doing.
and ill even go back to 6.2 and show you that 6.2 didnt do this.
even record my whole ubuntu install if you got the time to watch it lol.
to sum it up better here gose.
i pick the penguin model load him up hes all grey except 1 wing is black.
the colors are there but you cant see them until your dragging around stuff. well only 2 faces on his body are black the rest are grey,but the rest of his body parts turn the right color when dragging.
same with spheres, i can make a sphere color it and sometimes 1 will take the color,if i make 2 the second sphere takes the color but is gray until im dragging it around and i see the color while dragging it,but as soon as i let it go it returns to gray.
boxes seem to color fine ,rose,penguin and a few other models are like this. the top of the rose is red but the stem is grey until i drag it around and green shows but when i stop dragging it ,it returns to grey....
6.2 didnt do that.

Andy · 8th July 2008, 01:45 PM

video would be great.

tyjbr · 8th July 2008, 02:35 PM

uploading to utube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QGYZa_-pwU
uploaded a ogg and wow did you tube make it blurry but you can still see what im saying about colors and heres the terminal.

tyjbr@spell-book:~$ cd /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx
tyjbr@spell-book:~/ac3dlx$ ./ac3ds
AC3D_HOME is /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx
AC3D 6.4.30 (C) Copyright 2008 Inivis Limited

http://www.inivis.com

Loading settings from /home/tyjbr/.ac3dprefs.
OpenGL 2.1 Mesa 7.0.2 by Brian Paul, renderer: Mesa X11
Loading plugins from: /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx/plugins
save 3D PNG plugin V1.31 by Inivis
PPM image loader V1.0 - by John Stone
Direct X Plugin - Version 1.9 ( Jul 3 2008 ) - by F. Meinert
X3D Import/Export Plugin v1.0.3, by Rick Kimball http://ac3d.kimballsoftware.com/
Exporter for ATI NMF file format, suitable for use with ATI's Normal Mapper software.
Airfoil .sof import plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis
OBJ Import Plugin - Version 1.5 - by John N. Huffman
SMF Import Plugin - Version 1.02 - by Joerg Schmalzl
Second Life Box Export Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis
TIFF image loader V1.0 - by Greg O'Sullivan
Points Import Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis
Centre plugin V1.1 - by Takashi Matsuda
Field Import Plugin - Version 1.2 - by Inivis
Milkshape Export Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis
Targa image loader V1.12 - by John Stone/Inivis
T3D Export Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis
Bas relief from texture - version 1.0 - Dennis Hawthorne
PNG image loader V1.2 by Trent Gamblin/Inivis
DXF Export Plugin - V1.2 - by Inivis
Line command plugin - Version 1.0 by Inivis
Second Life Sculpted Prim plugin, version 1.2a - TFPSoft, LLC / Inivis
DDS File loader v1.01 - by Jeff Duncan (support 'at' virtualplatypus.com)
Milkshape (With Skeletons) Export Plugin - Version 2.0
Quake Map Export Plugin - Version 0.4 - by Inivis
STL/TXT Import Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Evelyn Miralles/Titan Inc.
SMF Export Plugin - V1.01 - by Joerg Schmalzl
Lightwave LWO Import Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Dennis Hawthorne
UVMap - version 1.0.1 - Dennis Hawthorne
Jpeg image loader V1.2 by John Stone/Inivis
OFF Import Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis
Terragen Terrain Import - Version 1.0 - import plugin by TFPSoft, LLC. Terragen by Planetside Software.
LightWave LWO export plugin - Version 1.01 by Dennis Hawthorne
Milkshape Import Plugin - Version 1.11 - by Inivis
3DS ASE export plugin - Version 1.1 by Inivis
Greeble - version 1.1b - Dennis Hawthorne
Wavefront OBJ export plugin - Version 1.4 by Dennis Hawthorne

*** Warning : LDraw plugin is for AC3D 6.1 or higher ! ***

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LDraw ( Lego ) Import/Export - Version 1.1 ( Jul 3 2008 ) - by F. Meinert
Settings have been saved to /home/tyjbr/.ac3dprefs
tyjbr@spell-book:~/ac3dlx$

tyjbr · 8th July 2008, 03:02 PM

whatever else you want just let me know ,im off for now be back later.

Andy · 8th July 2008, 03:59 PM

It looks like the image are OK when you are creating an object by dragging or moving/sizing an object - is that correct?

Can you send me a full-res dump of the AC3D window with a number of colored objects in it so I can analyze it?

tyjbr · 14th July 2008, 01:59 PM

I dont have linux on my laptop anymore right now ,but I do plan on putting it back in.
The problem dose not seem to bad to probly fix somehow.
AC3D runs great on vista or xp on this thing and was working right with version 6.2 on linux.
I gave you a video ,Im not really sure what more you want me to do in the next video.
I was going to install ubuntu ,do all updates, dont need any drivers says there are no restriced drivers for this.
Then I guess I could do 6.2 the old install and show you that in the video working well.
Then do a 6.4 video and show in it pretty much the same thing Ive been saying.
The colors work but.. even though the object takes the color ,it dose not show it,until you move the object around then it lights up the right color,let it go and quit moving it it gose back to grey ,it dosent loose the color you just cant see it until moving the object.
It dose this with every sphere except the 1st sphere ,same with the flat mesh,squares and other objects seem fine and each one shows colors.
Not really sure why 6.4 dose this.
The reason I dont have linux on my laptop right now is because my vista is growing and Im going to try to put linux on a usb drive.
Just post or email a few things you would like me to do in the videos.
What buttons to hit ,files to play with .....ect.....
I did play with allot of buttons though

I always do.

tyjbr · 16th July 2008, 07:36 AM

Did another 6.4 video,I just put the link in pm.
I cant do a 6.2 video unless someone tells me where to get it.

I tossed 6.2 by mistake and cant find it anywhere to redownload it.

tyjbr · 25th July 2008, 06:01 PM

Yo,I dont know if I said something stupid where you guys forgot about me, linux ,my laptop and ac3d 6.4, but I would like to know where to get the 6.2 linux version back again.Like an archive or something because.......
This is doing the same thing on my desktop pc :
Asus nforce 560 m2n-sli with:
amd phenom 9500 x4 2.21
4 gigs of fast ram
1 gig sparkle 8500 gt nvidia
250 sats hdd
ubuntu 8.04 all updates drivers ect..... anything you want Ill show ,video pics ect anything...
and all I do is download ac3d 6.4 linux version unzip it and run ac3ds,open the penguin my 1st try and then see it all messed up and ac3d 6.4 still has the same problems as on the laptop.
So thats 2 pcs so far for me,do I got to do all 5 pcs and make videos and photos of them all.
Im using ubuntu 8.04 64/32 mail order cds ,200 some+ updates and the lastest nvidia drivers installed from the driver manager and everything except this ac3d 6.4 ,works perfect.
I did pay for this modeler and would like it to also work on linux perfect the way 6.2 used to.
For now I just use 6.4 on my vista's and xp's.
But I do use linux alot and want it also on that.
I would like 6.2 back so heres my email if someone knows where I can find it.
ttyy3131@yahoo.com
Man I wish I never tossed the 6.2 by mistake.
Thanks again.
And thanks in advance to anyone who can point me to the 6.2 linux version so I can re download it and just use it.

8th July 2008, 05:33 AM	#1
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Linux AC3D on Acer laptop fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 32bit and all updates. didnt do anything funny this time. ac3d 6.4 unzip ran it. all plugins loaded. problems : default models lost colors. and colors do not stick to all objects. probly others. 6.2 with the way i installed it above worked better,i didnt have this problem and the only problem i seemed to have was "save 3D as png would crash ac3d.

8th July 2008, 06:27 AM	#2
Andy Administrator Professional user Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,727	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D have you tried running 'ac3ds' - this is the static library version. If 'ac3ds' works then the problems are in you graphics drivers.

8th July 2008, 01:07 PM	#3
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D ita an acer laptop with all intel stuff works right out of the box i dont need any drivers. ac3ds is the only 1 i use. it was working fine until 6.4 its also a fresh install . its ac3d not my laptop. acer 5610-4537, 2.5GB ram, intel gma 950 graphics. 256 shared video memory. works fine on vista ,was working fine on ubuntu with the funny install 6.2. all except the crash on save 3d win as png. heres the command i run from terminal ./ac3ds and i use this in a shell script, export AC3D_HOME=/home/tyjbr/ac3dlx && /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx/ac3ds there are no restricted drivers for this laptop. compiz works right after install. this is what i did, i reinstalled ubuntu 8.04 hardy basically just for ac3d to make sure it wasnt something with ubuntu. installed all 200 some updates ,restarted, unziped ac3dlx ran the above commands. theres really nothing more i can do. unless you know something i dont. all the plugins load so its not that. stumped. ill post a video somewhere of what 6.4 is doing. and ill even go back to 6.2 and show you that 6.2 didnt do this. even record my whole ubuntu install if you got the time to watch it lol. to sum it up better here gose. i pick the penguin model load him up hes all grey except 1 wing is black. the colors are there but you cant see them until your dragging around stuff. well only 2 faces on his body are black the rest are grey,but the rest of his body parts turn the right color when dragging. same with spheres, i can make a sphere color it and sometimes 1 will take the color,if i make 2 the second sphere takes the color but is gray until im dragging it around and i see the color while dragging it,but as soon as i let it go it returns to gray. boxes seem to color fine ,rose,penguin and a few other models are like this. the top of the rose is red but the stem is grey until i drag it around and green shows but when i stop dragging it ,it returns to grey.... 6.2 didnt do that. Last edited by tyjbr; 8th July 2008 at 01:40 PM. Reason: whats going on

8th July 2008, 01:45 PM	#4
Andy Administrator Professional user Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,727	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D video would be great.

8th July 2008, 02:35 PM	#5
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D uploading to utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QGYZa_-pwU uploaded a ogg and wow did you tube make it blurry but you can still see what im saying about colors and heres the terminal. tyjbr@spell-book:~$ cd /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx tyjbr@spell-book:~/ac3dlx$ ./ac3ds AC3D_HOME is /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx AC3D 6.4.30 (C) Copyright 2008 Inivis Limited http://www.inivis.com Loading settings from /home/tyjbr/.ac3dprefs. OpenGL 2.1 Mesa 7.0.2 by Brian Paul, renderer: Mesa X11 Loading plugins from: /home/tyjbr/ac3dlx/plugins save 3D PNG plugin V1.31 by Inivis PPM image loader V1.0 - by John Stone Direct X Plugin - Version 1.9 ( Jul 3 2008 ) - by F. Meinert X3D Import/Export Plugin v1.0.3, by Rick Kimball http://ac3d.kimballsoftware.com/ Exporter for ATI NMF file format, suitable for use with ATI's Normal Mapper software. Airfoil .sof import plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis OBJ Import Plugin - Version 1.5 - by John N. Huffman SMF Import Plugin - Version 1.02 - by Joerg Schmalzl Second Life Box Export Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis TIFF image loader V1.0 - by Greg O'Sullivan Points Import Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis Centre plugin V1.1 - by Takashi Matsuda Field Import Plugin - Version 1.2 - by Inivis Milkshape Export Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis Targa image loader V1.12 - by John Stone/Inivis T3D Export Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Inivis Bas relief from texture - version 1.0 - Dennis Hawthorne PNG image loader V1.2 by Trent Gamblin/Inivis DXF Export Plugin - V1.2 - by Inivis Line command plugin - Version 1.0 by Inivis Second Life Sculpted Prim plugin, version 1.2a - TFPSoft, LLC / Inivis DDS File loader v1.01 - by Jeff Duncan (support 'at' virtualplatypus.com) Milkshape (With Skeletons) Export Plugin - Version 2.0 Quake Map Export Plugin - Version 0.4 - by Inivis STL/TXT Import Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Evelyn Miralles/Titan Inc. SMF Export Plugin - V1.01 - by Joerg Schmalzl Lightwave LWO Import Plugin - Version 1.0 - by Dennis Hawthorne UVMap - version 1.0.1 - Dennis Hawthorne Jpeg image loader V1.2 by John Stone/Inivis OFF Import Plugin - Version 1.1 - by Inivis Terragen Terrain Import - Version 1.0 - import plugin by TFPSoft, LLC. Terragen by Planetside Software. LightWave LWO export plugin - Version 1.01 by Dennis Hawthorne Milkshape Import Plugin - Version 1.11 - by Inivis 3DS ASE export plugin - Version 1.1 by Inivis Greeble - version 1.1b - Dennis Hawthorne Wavefront OBJ export plugin - Version 1.4 by Dennis Hawthorne * Warning : LDraw plugin is for AC3D 6.1 or higher ! * 8 LDraw ( Lego ) Import/Export - Version 1.1 ( Jul 3 2008 ) - by F. Meinert Settings have been saved to /home/tyjbr/.ac3dprefs tyjbr@spell-book:~/ac3dlx$ Last edited by tyjbr; 8th July 2008 at 03:01 PM.

8th July 2008, 03:02 PM	#6
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D whatever else you want just let me know ,im off for now be back later.

8th July 2008, 03:59 PM	#7
Andy Administrator Professional user Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,727	Re: Running the Linux version of AC3D It looks like the image are OK when you are creating an object by dragging or moving/sizing an object - is that correct? Can you send me a full-res dump of the AC3D window with a number of colored objects in it so I can analyze it?

14th July 2008, 01:59 PM	#8
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Linux AC3D on Acer laptop I dont have linux on my laptop anymore right now ,but I do plan on putting it back in. The problem dose not seem to bad to probly fix somehow. AC3D runs great on vista or xp on this thing and was working right with version 6.2 on linux. I gave you a video ,Im not really sure what more you want me to do in the next video. I was going to install ubuntu ,do all updates, dont need any drivers says there are no restriced drivers for this. Then I guess I could do 6.2 the old install and show you that in the video working well. Then do a 6.4 video and show in it pretty much the same thing Ive been saying. The colors work but.. even though the object takes the color ,it dose not show it,until you move the object around then it lights up the right color,let it go and quit moving it it gose back to grey ,it dosent loose the color you just cant see it until moving the object. It dose this with every sphere except the 1st sphere ,same with the flat mesh,squares and other objects seem fine and each one shows colors. Not really sure why 6.4 dose this. The reason I dont have linux on my laptop right now is because my vista is growing and Im going to try to put linux on a usb drive. Just post or email a few things you would like me to do in the videos. What buttons to hit ,files to play with .....ect..... I did play with allot of buttons though I always do.

16th July 2008, 07:36 AM	#9
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Linux AC3D on Acer laptop Did another 6.4 video,I just put the link in pm. I cant do a 6.2 video unless someone tells me where to get it. I tossed 6.2 by mistake and cant find it anywhere to redownload it. Last edited by tyjbr; 16th July 2008 at 07:42 AM. Reason: I just put the link in pm

25th July 2008, 06:01 PM	#10
tyjbr Junior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Re: AC3D on ubuntu 8.04 hardy 64-32 Yo,I dont know if I said something stupid where you guys forgot about me, linux ,my laptop and ac3d 6.4, but I would like to know where to get the 6.2 linux version back again.Like an archive or something because....... This is doing the same thing on my desktop pc : Asus nforce 560 m2n-sli with: amd phenom 9500 x4 2.21 4 gigs of fast ram 1 gig sparkle 8500 gt nvidia 250 sats hdd ubuntu 8.04 all updates drivers ect..... anything you want Ill show ,video pics ect anything... and all I do is download ac3d 6.4 linux version unzip it and run ac3ds,open the penguin my 1st try and then see it all messed up and ac3d 6.4 still has the same problems as on the laptop. So thats 2 pcs so far for me,do I got to do all 5 pcs and make videos and photos of them all. Im using ubuntu 8.04 64/32 mail order cds ,200 some+ updates and the lastest nvidia drivers installed from the driver manager and everything except this ac3d 6.4 ,works perfect. I did pay for this modeler and would like it to also work on linux perfect the way 6.2 used to. For now I just use 6.4 on my vista's and xp's. But I do use linux alot and want it also on that. I would like 6.2 back so heres my email if someone knows where I can find it. ttyy3131@yahoo.com Man I wish I never tossed the 6.2 by mistake. Thanks again. And thanks in advance to anyone who can point me to the 6.2 linux version so I can re download it and just use it.

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